Familiarish. To be clear, this sort of re-appropriation doesn’t bother me — I’m flattered to be an inspiration to someone, and Jeremy gives credit where credit is due. I just wanted to point it out.
I knew a linkback would appear in my blog dashboard eventually; and it showed up right on time — a day or two after I rolled out the new design with your link in the footer — monitoring incoming links? :)
I’ve put quite a bit of work into my new site, and I have a big post waiting to be published until I review it another time or two with fresh eyes (it’s 6:30 am and I’ve still not crashed for the night). This upcoming post will explain a lot about my site, new features, new security, new blogging approach and new design. There is another link to your site within that post (sorry for link baiting) which is more gratifying.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a flopsy guy and I wasn’t looking for a plug (or a flame, thank you). I just really enjoy the material you post and your consistency. Not to mention, I fell in love with your site’s navigational architecture and layout the first time I landed here. Moreover, I find myself reading up on all your Django/Python related entries and waiting for more as I am slowly moving into a position where I can [hopefully] start playing with Django. A (friend of mine pushed me to your site to help encourage the thought of me jumping into Django for some of the projects I am working on.
Quite a coincidence that your most recent post happens to be about [what you call] appropriation. I guess I should have shot off an email before going live, at least to get your feedback; sorry about that. But, if you’re true to your word, then I guess no apologies are necessary being that appropriation doesn’t really negatively pull on you (considering that “credit is given where credit is due”). I would love to chime in on your appropriation post, but I think I’ll steer clear for now, I don’t need any unnecessary traffic or feedback from those in the web industry who don’t agree with your view on the matter. ;)
Lastly, if there is something about my site’s interface you feel too closely resembles (or maybe it’s the whole thing, lol) just let me know and I can move some things around…
@Andy: Sorry for leaving you with a dirty taste in your mouth. If I felt rolling out the new design would bring ridicule, I would rather just toss it and roll back to something lame again…
Jeremy - I have no objects to it whatsoever. You don’t need to change a thing, as far as I’m concerned. Especially since it’s based on my previous design, and not my current one.
That having been said, you do call yourself a web designer, and I have to wonder what potential clients and employers will think of the fact that your design is — well, my design.
Bottom line — you’re not bothering me one bit, but is it possible you’re hurting yourself?
That having been said, you do call yourself a web designer, and I have to wonder
what potential clients and employers will think of the fact that your design is —
well, my design.
One time someone who claimed to be a “graphic designer” stole my design, and that’s the first thing I thought of when I saw his site.
Yes, I do call myself a web designer, but I also call myself a developer, entrepreneur, father, son, I can go on for days. So lets take programming for instance; are you to say that if I use source code or a framework that has been written by someone else (even if I’ve modified it) that I am still pilfering? If that is the case, [virtually] every designer or developer should be held accused, because I’m sure we’ve all ripped some JavaScript code back in early 2000 or 2001 that did some kick ass DHTML action; or use a blog framework that someone else wrote.
My portfolio should display that i’m not a leech. I do understand your buffered inquisition about hurting myself, but we’re talking about a personal blog here, not my company image or the image of it’s subsidiary entities; this is a site for me to express knowledge, humor, creativity and anything else I see fit to pore onto my huge community of readers (OK, so probably about 3 people). Moreover, I’ve never heard [my] clients say “hey, just come up with something and we’ll go with that,” if they did, my job would be a lot easier. Instead, clients usually have a handful of sites they like, their own color scheme, accessibility requirements, and list of capabilities or offerings that differentiate their site from others on the Web — if I had a client that wanted a duplicate of another site, I would turn the job down [no question].
@Maura: Hmm, you too? Guess all the Croft readers are going to bash, eh’..
Welp, I guess I should figure out something for another relaunch — sheesh, it’s not even been a week on this one, and I really liked it (obviously, I named the design Green-Eyed Monster)
@Croft: By the way, the “Preview” comment doesn’t display anything, it just shows an empty preview…
001 // Andy Skogrand // 03.04.2007 // 3:06 PM
Inspired just isn’t strong enough a word.
002 // Jeremy Helms // 03.06.2007 // 6:38 AM
I knew a linkback would appear in my blog dashboard eventually; and it showed up right on time — a day or two after I rolled out the new design with your link in the footer — monitoring incoming links? :)
I’ve put quite a bit of work into my new site, and I have a big post waiting to be published until I review it another time or two with fresh eyes (it’s 6:30 am and I’ve still not crashed for the night). This upcoming post will explain a lot about my site, new features, new security, new blogging approach and new design. There is another link to your site within that post (sorry for link baiting) which is more gratifying.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a flopsy guy and I wasn’t looking for a plug (or a flame, thank you). I just really enjoy the material you post and your consistency. Not to mention, I fell in love with your site’s navigational architecture and layout the first time I landed here. Moreover, I find myself reading up on all your Django/Python related entries and waiting for more as I am slowly moving into a position where I can [hopefully] start playing with Django. A (friend of mine pushed me to your site to help encourage the thought of me jumping into Django for some of the projects I am working on.
Quite a coincidence that your most recent post happens to be about [what you call] appropriation. I guess I should have shot off an email before going live, at least to get your feedback; sorry about that. But, if you’re true to your word, then I guess no apologies are necessary being that appropriation doesn’t really negatively pull on you (considering that “credit is given where credit is due”). I would love to chime in on your appropriation post, but I think I’ll steer clear for now, I don’t need any unnecessary traffic or feedback from those in the web industry who don’t agree with your view on the matter. ;)
Lastly, if there is something about my site’s interface you feel too closely resembles (or maybe it’s the whole thing, lol) just let me know and I can move some things around…
@Andy: Sorry for leaving you with a dirty taste in your mouth. If I felt rolling out the new design would bring ridicule, I would rather just toss it and roll back to something lame again…
003 // Jeff Croft // 03.06.2007 // 8:23 AM
Jeremy - I have no objects to it whatsoever. You don’t need to change a thing, as far as I’m concerned. Especially since it’s based on my previous design, and not my current one.
That having been said, you do call yourself a web designer, and I have to wonder what potential clients and employers will think of the fact that your design is — well, my design.
Bottom line — you’re not bothering me one bit, but is it possible you’re hurting yourself?
004 // Maura // 03.06.2007 // 11:57 AM
One time someone who claimed to be a “graphic designer” stole my design, and that’s the first thing I thought of when I saw his site.
005 // Jeremy Helms // 03.06.2007 // 2:11 PM
Yes, I do call myself a web designer, but I also call myself a developer, entrepreneur, father, son, I can go on for days. So lets take programming for instance; are you to say that if I use source code or a framework that has been written by someone else (even if I’ve modified it) that I am still pilfering? If that is the case, [virtually] every designer or developer should be held accused, because I’m sure we’ve all ripped some JavaScript code back in early 2000 or 2001 that did some kick ass DHTML action; or use a blog framework that someone else wrote.
My portfolio should display that i’m not a leech. I do understand your buffered inquisition about hurting myself, but we’re talking about a personal blog here, not my company image or the image of it’s subsidiary entities; this is a site for me to express knowledge, humor, creativity and anything else I see fit to pore onto my huge community of readers (OK, so probably about 3 people). Moreover, I’ve never heard [my] clients say “hey, just come up with something and we’ll go with that,” if they did, my job would be a lot easier. Instead, clients usually have a handful of sites they like, their own color scheme, accessibility requirements, and list of capabilities or offerings that differentiate their site from others on the Web — if I had a client that wanted a duplicate of another site, I would turn the job down [no question].
@Maura: Hmm, you too? Guess all the Croft readers are going to bash, eh’..
Welp, I guess I should figure out something for another relaunch — sheesh, it’s not even been a week on this one, and I really liked it (obviously, I named the design Green-Eyed Monster)
@Croft: By the way, the “Preview” comment doesn’t display anything, it just shows an empty preview…